But let's really not look at the real culprit in this sad story of tax and spend - Social Spending. Over the same period it has tripled in Washington, no doubt a focus of politicians from both parties since every dollar spent on the Welfare State translates into votes.
By my count we're spending $9 billion more today on the Welfare state biennially than we would be if we had just doubled it like on Education and the total budget. But is anyone talking about cutting off voters who receive the handouts and demand more and more?
$9 billion would cover the deficits, and probably even cover the tricks and gimmicks Olympia has employed to make things look better than they really are. But does anyone honestly believe that the Dems in power would ever say no to their constituents? No, caught in between a taxpayer and tax recipient, Democrats will always side with the voter with the hand out.
Posted by Reality at February 7, 2010 01:05 PMThis is what it's about. Runaway Union with there bought and paid for Governor and Legislature negotiating with them.
What a farce.
Need to get a ballot Initiative to privatize Labor & Industries, most of DOT, Ferry's
Now is the time Stefan
Posted by dude at February 7, 2010 01:30 PMA simple (but not easy) problem to solve. The more voters are aware, the less they'll be willingly complicit. Blogs like this, and bloggers like Stefan, make that possible. Few others seem willing.
But, my worry is that on the federal level, the situation much more difficult. The big government folks (by design) haven't endeavored to arrange a tyranny of the minority. By expanding benefits to large groups of disparate demographics (government employees, seniors, minorities, youth, the unemployed, the uneducated), they're seeking to cobble together a tyranny of the majority (50% +1, only 1). If they do it, the consequences for the other 49.9% is, shall we say, not so good.
When you read the federalist papers you see that this is, inherently, an inevitable problem with democracy, any democracy. They tried to implement safeguards. They worked for a few centuries, but now seem quite shaky.
Very illuminative to read up on Greece's trouble today. It's America's trouble tomorrow.
Posted by AD at February 7, 2010 05:22 PMAt the very least, even those who do critical functions in government should be forced to use transit to get to and from their taxpayer funded jobs and to live with all of the other inefficiencies that the bureaucracies who employ them create.
We should start with the government employee unions and make it illegal for any public employees to unionize.
Posted by Jeff B. at February 7, 2010 08:30 PMalso, dues aren't mandatory. none of our (libertarian) gov't employee friends pay their union dues. haven't for years.
This state's budget has doubled since 1981 after adjusting for inflation. you mean the underfunded 1981 recession budget? when even the Rs had to raise taxes by nearly 11% (and in doing so, lost control of the leg.)?!? you may not recall, but due to underfunding, the community colleges and UW were terrible - as were most other programs, also severely underfunded. but i'll be damned, those tax raises got WA out of the recession, and funding adjustments created a strong, educated workforce. also, the state has grown by 50% since then. i'm not seeing any problem with that. it's a hell of a lot better now than it was then. unemployment in WA was about 12%.
But let's really not look at the real culprit in this sad story of tax and spend - Social Spending.
if 2/3 of the state budget is state worker wages/benefits, how is social spending the 'real culprit'? i thought you were smaller, less effective goverment-types.
No, caught in between a taxpayer and tax recipient, Democrats will always side with the voter with the hand out.
and caught between a corporation and a citizen, a republican will always side with the corporation.
'dude' - you CAN see everyone's total compensation, and the average is far below 31% for Benefits plus 18% for paid time-off.
btw, PTO IS a benefit. and at 11 days per year, no one is getting 18%.
At the very least, even those who do critical functions in government should be forced to use transit to get to and from their taxpayer funded jobs
alot of them already do. but are you really saying cops or firemen shouldn't be allowed to own cars?
We should start with the government employee unions and make it illegal for any public employees to unionize.
have you always been against workers rights?
Recently, a local teacher who is at his retirement age had the school buy his prep period for one year - this added $400 per month to his retirement package and it really didn't cost the school much at all - they didn't have to buy another teacher to fill that spot and it is the state that is on the hook for the rest of his life.
We can fix the state finances by tackling it's benefits packages for state workers. Why do they get cadillac insurance plans? Maybe we should set up government workers by putting them in the VA plans. They only get full benefits if they use VA hospitals, otherwise the co-pays and deductibles double or triple if they use non-govt. run medical facilities. Do it nationwide, it might cost us a few billion to build more facilities but the savings would be huge. And retirement benefits? They give those away as if they are peanuts because it will be someone else's problem by the time they retire.
Posted by Doug at February 8, 2010 01:13 PMand why don't you think that cops, firemen, the military deserve decent health care? why do you hate the military?!?
btw, we approved those bennies.
Government employees should get the lowest dregs of everything.
epitome of asinine, jeff.
The point is that those who accept govt. funded healthcare or healthcare benefits should be using govt. run facilities. There should be a financial disincentive for going outside their network - just as there is in our private health insurance plans.
This would reduce costs for all by reducing demand in for-profit medical facilities and doctors and creating a two-tier system of health care - one aimed at reduced costs and likely less quality for those who have govt. provided care - and one that is free to exist the way that we have done it so that we can continue to improve medicine at a fast pace.
Posted by Doug at February 9, 2010 08:58 AMhilarious.
at that point, we might as well go single payer - hey, that's a great and cost effective idea!
Posted by mike at February 9, 2010 09:18 PM