Comment on Entry: Friday Open Thread, authored by Jim Miller
1. Hi all:
If you live in Sammamish, Redmond, Woodinville, Kirkland, Duvall--or know someone who does---please support the campaign of 45th District House of Representatives candidate Joel Hussey.
Joel will be an outstanding replacement for Roger Goodman, the democrat opponent who thought it was a good idea in a nasty recession to raise the Business and Occupation Tax a huge 20% for service businesses (among other disastrous votes).

You can donate here:

And--in my opinion--Goodman is not family-friendly enough, due to his being way too enthusiastic for pot legalization.

Posted by Michele at June 22, 2012 12:32 PM
2. While I voted for the initiative to privatize liquor stores and still think it is a good thing, I wonder if local grocery stores are "ripping" off consumers in the increased pricing. The pricing before state taxes is about what it was including state taxes when sold exclusively through the liquor stores. Maybe it is the wholesalers, but someone should explain the jump in prices.

Michelle -- Good to bring up the local races. Hope more coverage comes, outside of the District 1 race. I really hope that Burner isn't one of the choices there. That would be a catastrophe if she had a chance of winning it.

Posted by tc at June 22, 2012 02:13 PM
3. #2 and all: With re-districting, the 45th has now tilted more conservative, which is exciting. This is in all likelihood going to be a very competitive race.

Posted by Michele at June 22, 2012 02:24 PM
4. @2 I really think it depends on what type/brand of liquor you are buying. I buy some name brand stuff (usually bourbon or Crown) which have been more expensive and generic varieties of other liquors. I picked up a generic bottle of rum the other day at Fred Meyer with a list price of $8.50, after taxes it was a little under $12 I think. From what I remember this was very close to what it was at the state stores. This is also true of the Costco "Kirkland" brand liquors in the larger quantities, which are usually very good.

I love the convenience of buying it when I shop for groceries, and the price difference isn't so much higher that it outweighs the convenience.

Posted by Palouse at June 22, 2012 02:54 PM
5. About two weeks ago, Jay Inslee paid a visit to the aerospace company I work for, during normal working hours. It was disgusting to see so many coworkers and managers slobbering all over his boots. Since our company is in Snohomish County, he has never represented us, and I thought that visit was not a good thing (politics is frowned upon, and I have been mildly disciplined for wearing somewhat political clothing).
Well, last Friday we got the news that the company is pulling in its horns (hiring freeze, no overtime allowed, early retirement packages offered). Coincidence? Probably, but still looks bad.

Posted by RushBabe at June 22, 2012 04:44 PM
6. I am increasing convinced the problems in our country can all be traced back to the coarsening of our culture and an 'anything goes' morality (or I should say lack there-of morality).

The perfect illustration of that (this week) was the horrendous actions and vile words of those PRE-TEENS toward their elderly bus monitor.

You already know I am not one to urge anything in schools beyond actual subjects kids need to learn to understand where the come from and the tools they need to succeed (yep, the basics, especially CIVICS), but perhaps instead of spoon feeding them the easy and yummy courses like diversity and sex education we, as a nation, ought to go back to basic manners, decorum and respect. Liberals always use the "but they're not getting it from their parents at home" excuse for sex education so how could they possibly object.

My oldest son had 4 years in public school (7th - 10th) after and before Catholic school and one of his first incredulous impressions was that the teachers wore jeans and t-shirts and were addressed by their first names. This was a shock and anathema to him. But isn't that where the lack of respect starts - with adults leveling themselves with children's friends? If no one at that early age delineates the difference how are children to know?

It's easy to point out ONLY abortion as the cause of our coarsening because if one doesn't respect the most basic element of a culture, life, it's hard to imagine respect for much else, but I also believe there's much more: edgy fashion, vulgarity for shock that's turned into vulgarity as conversation both which erodes innocence in our children earlier and earlier, an immature generation that has little or no mechanism to differentiate between what they see in video games from real life - nor do they understand the potential consequences for not being able to tell the difference, the gang culture that proceeded from a glorification of the PRISON culture and yes defacing ones body with tattoo's. I know our liberal fiends here will take exception to this, but I truly believe the coarsening of political discourse started with the proudly and loudly proclaimed and enacted "scorched earth" policy under the Clinton's with the gleeful help of Carville. I prefer to imagine and give them the benefit of the doubt that they did not anticipate the internet explosion, the new media of blogs and Twitter. The internet allows and encourages unfiltered rudeness and ugliness with it's anonymity.

And then of course there's the assault on God... on FAITH. The reminders of good behavior, of respectful attitudes of decorum are GONE. I truly believe one of the first lost reminders was when Catholic nuns stopped wearing habits: they were a reminder and folks of all faiths and no faith just simply behaved better in their presence.

There is simply no reason for this country to have devolved so fast and so sadly into such crude, crass and rude culture.

And as we have devolved so far in such short a time, where does that leave us, where will it lead us?

Children live what they learn. Such a trite little remark... but look where it led us.

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at June 22, 2012 05:21 PM
7. This has more of a national flavor but has a bearing on life in the Puget Sound region after the end of this year. The WaPo has mischaracterized Mitt Romney's business activities

James Pethokoukis debunks their stories with the true story here

Posted by KDS at June 22, 2012 08:16 PM
8. Agree with all you say, Ragnar.

Another assault upon Judeo Christianity and common decency was our state government's vote to approve homosexual 'marriage'. Will Washington be the first state whose citizens vote to approve pervert marriage? May God help us if Seattle drags the rest of us into that sewer.

Posted by Saltherring at June 23, 2012 06:24 AM
9. @8 Saltherring on June 23, 2012 06:24 AM,

"homosexual 'marriage'"

To her dad's delight, Mary Cheney marries

Mary Cheney, daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney, has married her longtime partner, Heather Poe.[...]"Mary and Heather have been in a committed relationship for many years, and we are delighted that they were able to take advantage of the opportunity to have that relationship recognized," the Cheney family said in a statement.

Your closed bigoted mind has had you in the sewer for years. Too bad for you.

Posted by MikeBoyScout at June 23, 2012 09:57 AM
10. @7 RagnarDanneskold on June 22, 2012 05:21 PM,

Yes! "when Catholic nuns stopped wearing habits" that was terrible!

You must be pleased that one long Roman Catholic tradition continues .... child molestation.

But you keep helping the children by harping about the attire teachers wear. That's good.

Posted by MikeBoyScout at June 23, 2012 10:15 AM
11. You must be pleased that one long Roman Catholic tradition continues .... child molestation.

Wow, you are truly one sick little puppy.
(PS: I suggest you check your premise: go get educated on facts and figures regarding teachers, coaches, day care providers, BOY SCOUT leaders and ministers of every denomination - separately or in totality and compare them to the Catholic priests you love to hate. Go on find the ugly percentages if you have the courage (which I sincerely doubt). Of course your basic dishonesty in anything that disagrees with your hatefulness will prevent any admission of wrong on your part.)

... And utterly clueless as you miss the point altogether and go off on your own little tangent.

Which is EXACTLY the point of my post: needless, arbitrary ugliness in American discourse.

Thanks so much for being such a perfect, shining example.

Now back to rational, thinking adults...

RE: Saltherring @ 8: I think that's a more consequence than a symptom. When you stand for nothing, when you have NOTHING upon which to build personal or cultural morality, anything and everything becomes right simply because people refuse to name/identify WRONG.

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at June 23, 2012 10:54 AM
12. Mike-Boy @ 9:

"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil..." Isaiah 5:20.

Mike-Boy and his immoral, leftist compatriots, in deference to our Creator, have devised their own filthy version of good and evil. Let them be warned that one day all will give an accounting of his/her deeds to God, who will decide their fate according to to truth of His Word....and not the lies of the wicked.

Posted by Saltherring at June 23, 2012 01:02 PM
13. I'm not a fan, but interesting how Ms. Cantwell made a fuss about Washington gas prices...and f ew weeks later the local fuel price is down 50 cents a gallon and dropping.

So...where's the investigative reporting, where's the big expose, where are all the newspaper reporters state-wide and why are they not looking into this situation. Afraid of going to Olympia and asking questions?...afraid to report what they might find??

Any surprise the news industry is in the toilet?

Posted by Denni at June 23, 2012 03:39 PM
14. I've noticed that every election year Ms. Cantwell faces, she 'suddenly' becomes very interested in gas prices being investigated. It never comes to anything, but apparently she wants you to know she's doing something, somehow...about something, whatever that is.

Posted by Monterey at June 23, 2012 05:50 PM
15. The gas prices will probably be down to $3/gallon by the end of the summer - Cantwell's carping will not matter much in the big scheme of things.

Baumgartner has the best chance against Cantwell, while Coday has been invisible. I think Mark Baumgartner will do pretty well in a debate against the incumbent US Senator.

Posted by KDS at June 23, 2012 08:16 PM
16. Children live what they learn. Such a trite little remark... but look where it led us. - Posted by RagnarDanneskold at June 22, 2012 05:21 PM

Doug Giles' Cure for the Skinny Punks Who Viciously Bullied the Granny on the Bus

... What these little 666s did to this passive, sweet lady--ultimately bringing her to tears--was truly disgusting. If these hellions would have sadistically berated a black or gay kid (or a black gay kid) Al Sharpton and Dan Savage would have pulled a groin muscle leaping to the occasion, and these little devils would have justly been hauled to juvey court facing a five-year lockdown and jail sex. But, alas, Karen is a white hetero, so ... they'll probably get a pass.

Let's recap the film: The pusillanimous mini-monsters hit the weeping Mrs. Klein with multiple F-bombs, called her a "fat b-tch" several times, and said that they would like to urinate and defecate on her and stab her (among numerous other unsavory things). That's what 13-year-old boys said to a 68-year-old-woman. Hope & Change.

2. Why didn't the bus driver pull the stupid hell-bus over and throttle the diminutive devils? What kind of adult can stand by and watch this type of venom leveled at an elderly person? I don't care how litigious our PC-addled culture gets, I pray to all that's holy that I never shrivel up to the point where I will not defend the defenseless.

3. Are there no more kids with half a conscience who will jump in and stop this type of crap? Decent boys and girls out there, you've got to help the adults. Most adults have been sufficiently cowed by courts that we're afraid to defend our person, especially if a minor is involved. However, since you're the same age as your out-of-whack future progressive voter peers, why don't you ... um ... "control the situation," and we'll give you a high five when you get home. It'll earn you street cred with those who matter.

... 3. Everyone else matters before you do. If these kids do not change, can you imagine what the USA will look like in 50 years with that kind of unbridled narcissism? Good luck.

4. Be helpful. Teach your kids to assist in making things greater by their presence--not suckier.

... Parents, forbid your child to act like a spoiled, rabid, egocentric animal. Make good manners and propriety a given for your kid. Instill the above southern qualities into your offspring, and when they grow up, they'll thank you in spades--and they'll be respected, revered leaders wherever they go.

*Emphasis mine

COMMON SENSE ... lost on too many self absorbed, politically correct progressive "parents" who want to be easy mommy-pals with their children instead of role models, mentors and disciplinarians. These type of parents need to grow the hell up before they procreate and attempt to mold the growing up of their offspring. For all the goodies the 'mommy-pals' of these kids give them they are not giving them the most important thing in for their life: MORAL STRUCTURE.

And for all the lefties revving up their high dungeon, remember it is YOUR ideology that has taken morals OUT of the public culture; it is YOUR ideology that mocks those who put faith at the top of their life list; it is YOUR ideology that protects vicious little 'darlings' as misunderstood; it is YOUR ideology that has neutered the meaning of MALE, scorned the traditional behavior and definition of MEN and feminized society; it is YOUR ideology that champions no filters on language, sex, drugs, dress; it is YOUR ideology that worships the false god of political correctness over just plain proper behavior; it is YOUR ideology who champions the life of a animal over that of a human; it is YOUR ideology that champions euthanasia over the difficulty of life in sickness, infirmary or age.

Yes, these despicable punks, this despicable attitude that allows this vile behavior are the creation of YOUR ideology. Are you proud?

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at June 24, 2012 11:55 AM
17. Well spoken, Ragnar. Everything wrong with our court system, culture and government, from out-of-control schools to political correctness to Godlessness to multiculturalism to moral degredation to the welfare state to sodomite 'marriage' to government-funded abortion on demand to endless litigation to secular humanism to government corruption to loss of constitutional rights has been brought about by liberal and leftist Dimocrats.

Liberals and leftists hate the God of the Bible. Into their Godless vacuum marches Satan, the god of this world. They have freely given themselves and their children to him. One day they will realize what they have done, but it will be too late.

Posted by Saltherring at June 24, 2012 01:29 PM
18. Ragnar, sad but true. This is where the now-leftist-tiled public education atmosphere has gone. I hate it. Public school kids are allowed to act like animals on school grounds, too. We witnessed it.

Posted by Monterey at June 24, 2012 01:50 PM
19. ..and btw, I LIKE the new ferris wheel on Pier 57. Didn't think the close-minded provincials in Seattle would ever allow something like that, but I think it's a great addition to the Waterfront. Keeps it from getting 'tired'. Bravo!
People will flock to try it, much more than they ever would have to ride some lame trolley car that the city can't even afford.

PS---this ferris wheel was built with NO taxpayer dollars, too.

Posted by Monterey at June 24, 2012 02:02 PM
20. I quit buying liquor in this state when I saw what the state was doing with the Liquor taxes and the monopoly of distributorships. Holding on to just a handful of distributors is causing the price increase. I buy at, they have hard liquor, wines, and beers, and kick the crap out of any pricing in this state

Posted by gs at June 24, 2012 11:09 PM
21. Where is Patty Murray? Her job is to get lefty senators re-elected. Instead they are dropping out of the Democrat convention like flies.

Patty... yoohoo....

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at June 26, 2012 07:30 PM
22. #21: Seems like the no-show list for the Dem convention is growing daily.

Posted by Monterey at June 27, 2012 02:02 AM
23. Fortune has an interesting piece on their investigation into the Fast and Furious debacle. If there investigation is true, it doesn't look good on CBS, who (along with MSNBC) played editor on the initial broadcast of the scandel. It also doesn't look like Rep Issa is looking at all the facts. Also, why is the NRA so against a registry of guns? Why force businesses to keep track of this information on paper forms instead of automation? Does the NRA really support no tracking of guns in order to help out criminals via the shadow purchases like what was (and maybe still is) going on in Arizona? The NRA needs to answer this investigative report by addressing the issues raised over lack of automation and tracking and ability for shadow purchases to be occurring. It really negates the honest gun owners and cripples law enforcement from going after the criminals.

Posted by tc at June 27, 2012 03:23 PM
24. It was a usual Friday afternoon. As I was walking up the street, I noticed my next door neighbour outside.

Posted by ZQuiet at June 27, 2012 11:04 PM
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