Comment on Entry: Congratulations To Seattle Mayor Mike McGinn, authored by Jim Miller
1. Seattle may catch New York City next year. From this, it would be deduced that Nanny Bloomberg is doing more to curb bedbugs than Mayor McGinn. (He may be a one-termer, by judging by the number of candidates who want to run against him).

Thankfully, I don't live in either bedbug infested city.

Posted by KDS at January 18, 2013 09:22 AM
2. I'd propose we in Seattle do something about our concern-troll infestation, but that seems to be a self-liquidating issue, as the last few front-page posters here rigorously censor their last few remaining readers. :-)

Posted by tensor at January 18, 2013 09:37 AM
3. @2 - you are delusional, once again. Only in your narrow, wingnut mind. The public is not all brainwashed like you wish they would be.

Posted by KDS at January 18, 2013 09:40 AM
4. Why is it 'necessary' to attack fellow posters...can't we state what our opinion or point of view is and be satisfied with that, or does loneliness and/or boredom possess us to spew venom just for the sake of rebuttal and wanting someone to pay attention to our nonsense. :)

Posted by Duffman at January 18, 2013 09:50 AM
5. @4 - While you have a salient point, you may or may not realize the innuendo from @2 was pointed directly at SP and non-leftists who post here and I took offense at this.

While my response could have been more tactful and I could have asked tensor to explain what he meant and that he is probably making some invalid assumptions, their comment was absurd in the first place. In this instance, I preferred to cut to the chase and call out their comment and engage in any forthcoming debates. You may not realize how politically polarized the tone of comments are and the high volume of finger pointing. As for creating a less polarized environment, in reality there is no easy answer and in light of the subject matter - you would be naive to believe otherwise.

Posted by KDS at January 18, 2013 10:43 AM
6. "Why is it 'necessary' to attack fellow posters...can't we state what our opinion or point of view is and be satisfied with that..."

Go ask Pudge, assuming he'll let you.

"... I could have asked tensor to explain what he meant and that he is probably making some invalid assumptions..."

Compare the number of posters and commenters here from, say, 2006 to the number today, and you'll see I was not making assumptions. (Pudge was back for what, a few hours before he banned yet another commenter?)

Posted by tensor at January 18, 2013 10:55 AM
7. Hmm, now what could it possibly be that the majority of those top 15 bug infested cities have in common...

#1 thru 8 all blue cities in blue states
New York - liberal
Seattle - loudly liberal
San Francisco - obnoxiously liberal

One might suggest dot connecting... or perhaps BUG connecting.

AND, I certainly hope all your public transportation zealots (Hello Mayor!) keep in mind that bed bugs don't stay in bed. They attach themselves to your socks, your coat, your whatever clothing and then YOU take it to the bus, the train, where other zealots pick them up and spread them around.

Thanks.

More liberal unintended consequences.

Fortunately

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 18, 2013 11:12 AM
8. Huh. ... can't think what thought I was thinking when I typed 'fortunately'...

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 18, 2013 11:14 AM
9. Yes, you are making an invalid assumption. Check the number of viewers, not posters to get the complete picture.

Also compare the number of leftwing commenters since 2006. You will likely see that the numbers have risen, while the number of conservative commenters have decreased. Conversely, compare the number of viewers (not commenters) on leftist websites like HA.org or blatherwatch.org (they are very small) or try BlueOregon.com for an out of state comparison. You will find that SP is more widely viewed than the local leftwing blogs.

Why did Air America and the progressive talk shows on 1090 diminish recently ? Just sayin'. The leftwing talk shows are not as popular, nor thought-provoking IMO. With that said, I do not listen to much talk radio or watch Fox News (no cable) these day.

Posted by KDS at January 18, 2013 11:17 AM
10. Huh. It's not that New Yorkers have bedbugs, it's that they ARE bed bugs.

God, I love liberals.

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 18, 2013 11:38 AM
11. @6 tensor on January 18, 2013 10:55 AM,

"Pudge was back for what, a few hours before he banned yet another commenter"

Liar! pudge's post is "open"!

:-D

Bed bugs, pudge the Koster Boy, the [5?] members of the (un)SP peanut gallery .. all hilarious!

Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 18, 2013 11:40 AM
12. Pudge is back to his stupid games with the comments on his posts -- Here's one that he blocked about the gun control issue:

"Ragnar and KDS -- You two continue to flail away at the same straw man liberal who fails to see that millions of people own guns responsibly.

Nobody is talking about taking those guns away. It becomes boring to try and discuss an issue in an adult manner if you insist on ALWAYS casting yourself as the hapless victim of controlling liberals who, in the words of brug addict, Rush Limbaugh: '...just don't get it.'"

Posted by dorky dorkman at January 18, 2013 11:46 AM
13.
"You two continue to flail away at the same straw man liberal who fails to see that millions of people own guns responsibly."

Ex-squeeze you, low information voter - A half-truth and only in your own mind; that's why Harry Reid does not want to have a vote on gun-grabber legislation because there are enough Democrats who oppose this to make it look foolish.


"Nobody is talking about taking those guns away."

Maybe, but Obama's inner monarch would like to, but he knows that he cannot do that.

"It becomes boring to try and discuss an issue in an adult manner if you insist on ALWAYS casting yourself as the hapless victim of controlling liberals who, in the words of brug addict, Rush Limbaugh: '...just don't get it.'"

Back at ya for pulling red herrings like this out of thin air. I don't care what Limbaugh says and by the way, its former drug addict. Get your loud lefty talking points straight.

BTW, liberals control 2/3 of the Legislative and Executive Branch. Remember how you felt when Bush-43 was president - you leftists were ALWAYS casting yourselves as the VICTIMs. You and your ilk will reap what you sow - not a threat, just a promise.

Posted by KDS at January 18, 2013 12:02 PM
14. "Pudge was back for what, a few hours before he banned yet another commenter?"

It was my confronting his lies that got me banned. No one got to see the comments to sent him over the edge. He just can't deal with it. He was the same way at HA. There he'd get frustrated and leave and here he gets frustrated and bans people. Pretty lame.

Regarding bed bugs, I've looked around to see what's up with that. It actually doesn't have anything to do with liberals. Imagine that! An infestation is likely attributed traveling with bugs getting in your luggage and the bug's ability to travel floors and rooms in apartment buildings and hotels which are, of course, concentrated in cities. And apparently bed bugs don't care if a place is clean or dirty. All they seem to want is a warm host, either liberal or conservative will do, and some convenient hiding places.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/bedbugs/DS00663/DSECTION=causes

I couldn't get Jim's link to load but I did find another one here with a map that presented no problems. It looks like it's concentrated where hotels and apartments are most dense. Heh. It also looks like nobody in Rainier Valley is reporting their bed bugs!

http://www.seattlebedbugs.com/

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 18, 2013 12:05 PM
15. Rags, since I grew up in New York, and now live in Seattle, having never once encountered a bedbug, I must defer to your great expertise on the topic of pestiferation. :-D

"AND, I certainly hope all your public transportation zealots (Hello Mayor!) keep in mind that bed bugs don't stay in bed. They attach themselves to your socks, your coat, your whatever clothing and then YOU take it to the bus, the train, where other zealots pick them up and spread them around."

At least we've found ways of keeping our concern-trolls on the Internet, and out of our physical city. (Well, most of the time, anyway.)

Posted by tensor at January 18, 2013 12:06 PM
16. Jim Miller,

Serious question - Are you asserting that government should have a primary role in overseeing health policy?

I ask because you title your post with a congratulation to our city's government leader and then you go on to talk about people's and business' problems with maintaining themselves in a bed bug free way in terms of a governmental entity; city.

To combat bed bug infestations, do you support increased regulations of motels and hotels? What exactly should a Mayor of any city do to combat bed bugs and keep its people safe?

Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 18, 2013 12:15 PM
17. tensor - If you have some quarrel with Pudge, shouldn't you take it up with him, not me?

I'll even give you some simple, conflict-resolution advice on how to do that: take a little time to compose an email to him explaining your grievance and what you would like him to do about it.

Set aside the email for a few days and then check it to see if it is as civil in tone as possible. If it is, then send it. If not, revise it until it is. (You may want to get someone else to check it, just to be sure.)

(I probably should add that I seldom read the comments on posts from other contributors, so I have no idea what started this quarrel, and by now don't care.)

Posted by Jim Miller at January 18, 2013 12:24 PM
18. @14 - "We chew up stupid people like Pudge and spit them out until they run away to never return, just like he did. That's right, KDS. The coward couldn't take it so he ran."

Prove it ! My experience over on HA is one of marveling at the stupidity of certain responders, ridiculing their bullcrap and low information voter myths and you fit right in.

You have not addressed this yet - you are just blowing smoke, until further demonstrated otherwise. BTW, if your panties are in such a wad about Pudge, then go start your own blog so you can invite him over, then you can have a big orgasm when you ban him.

Posted by KDS at January 18, 2013 12:40 PM
19. Flashback--Obama, Circa 1990s: 'I Don't Believe People Should Be Able to Own Guns'

To combat bed bug infestations, do you support increased regulations of motels and hotels?

I support increase regulation of BUMS, their filthy bug infested clothes and their filthy bug infested bedding.

Wouldn't it be ironic (deliciously ironic) if DDT was the one thing that would kill bed bugs...

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 18, 2013 12:41 PM
20. MBS - Since it isn't a classic public health problem - as I understand it, bedbugs do not carry infectious diseases to any great degree -- it isn't clear to me what government's role should be. (In contrast, I am absolutely for government, and private, actions to control disease-carrying mosquitoes.)

But it is a matter of public interest because of its possible effects on tourist businesses in Seattle. If you looked at the reports accompanying that map, you'll see that many of them are complaints from people who had bad stays in Seattle-area motels and hotels. If the Seattle area gets a reputation for being bedbug-infested, it is likely to hurt the tourist trade here.

So there may be some place for government action here, but what the city of Seattle should do isn't clear to me (other than admitting that they may have a problem). If, say, Mayor McGinn were to ask me what to do, I suppose I would say that I would search for similar cities that have had success in reducing their bedbug populations and see if it was possible to copy, or even improve on, their policies.

And if I were running one of the hotels or motels in this area, I would definitely try to find out from other hotels and motels how to detect and stop infestations.

Finally, here's a thought that might lead to government-sponsored research, a very profitable commercial product, or both: We really could use a quick and reliable test for the presence of bedbugs, one simple enough to be used by, for instance, a chamber maid.

Posted by Jim Miller at January 18, 2013 12:43 PM
21. I have an off the wall question... do our prominent politicians (presidents, senators, governors, mayors...) have mandatory drug tests with their physicals?

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 18, 2013 12:53 PM
22. Another question for Jim - I know you hadn't about a month ago, but did you ever get a coherent - or any other kind - from Patty Murray?

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 18, 2013 12:55 PM
23. KDS -- Another mind reading conservative -- how conveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenient.

Will I have to provide links and objective proof to challenge your Obama mind-reading?

Posted by dorky dorkman at January 18, 2013 01:12 PM
24. Jim
Thanks for the point of interest post. All I can say is that not necessarily a topic to contemplate at lunch time.

Posted by tc at January 18, 2013 01:21 PM
25. "tensor - If you have some quarrel with Pudge, shouldn't you take it up with him, not me?"

My original point I will re-iterate to you, Jim. I don't know what purpose you think this blog has, but in general, political commentary becomes more effective with increasing readership. I put your question back to you: does having posters here constantly banning readers who dare dissent serve your purpose(s)? Shouldn't *you* have a problem with his constant accusations, insults, and censorship of readers? I ask those questions in complete seriousness.

With less than complete seriousness, I answer your question: I do not have a problem with Pudge's behavior. His banning of me was the greatest compliment he could ever possibly give me. :-)

Posted by tensor at January 18, 2013 01:24 PM
26. re 17: LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by dorky dorkman at January 18, 2013 01:24 PM
27. Will I have to provide links and objective proof to challenge your Obama mind-reading?

Posted by dorky dorkman at January 18, 2013 01:12 PM

You are grasping at straws and are welcome to try, but you have demonstrated to have an issue with credibility that will have be vetted.

BTW, it is more than mind-reading; in 1996, he stated - while at the Univ. of Chicago that he was in favor of handguns being banned. Look it up. As I said before, he wouldn't be able to do that even if he proposed it, so it's a moot point.

Posted by KDS at January 18, 2013 01:28 PM
28. re 27: "...he wouldn't be able to do that even if he proposed it, so it's a moot point."

Indeed it is -- a moot point that is. But that's MY point. I'm tired of your faux outrage at things that don't matter and can't happen. The question before us is how to stop the gun related murdering, both mass and otherwise, that confronts our society.

Let's take Wayne LaPierre at his word and say that messaging could have an important effect on what is happening nowadays.

I am quite sure that the rifle that my father gave me as a boy (after taking the NRA safe hunter course) -- a Remington Model 552 "Speedmaster" -- a semi-automatic rifle that can fire .22 Short, .22 Long and .22 long rifle cartridges. Ammunition is fed from a tubular magazine under the barrel is just as deadly in the right hands (mine) as any AR15 on the market. But when you lay them side by side, the purpose of the gun appears to be quite different. One is for plinking and varmint hunting, the other designed to appear as a military assault weapon with the express purpose of killing people.

So, how about a ban on weapons that are visually designed to look like assault weapons in favor of rifles and guns that have a more sedate look to them?

Posted by dorky dorkman at January 18, 2013 01:45 PM
29. Ragnar - No. If Murray had replied to either of my emails, I would have posted her reply, or replies, here for everyone to see and comment on.

I did not expect a real reply, though I would not have been surprised if I had gotten a form letter from her office.

But I thought it only fair to give her staff a chance to reply before opening the posts.

Posted by Jim Miller at January 18, 2013 01:57 PM
30. @20 Jim Miller on January 18, 2013 12:43 PM,

FYI, the Center for Disease Control sees bed bugs as a health concern
Joint Statement on Bed Bug Control in the United States from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)

Although bed bugs are not known to transmit disease, they are a pest of significant public health importance. Bed bugs fit into a category of blood-sucking ectoparasites (external parasites) similar to head lice (Pediculus humanus capitis). Bed bugs, like head lice, feed on the blood of humans but are not believed to transmit disease. Other ectoparasites, such as body lice (Pediculus humanus corporis), are known to transmit several serious diseases. Differences in the biology of similar species of pests, such as body lice and head lice (or bed bugs) can greatly impact the ability of pests to transmit disease.

But back to my question. You've implied that the Seattle Mayor has something to do with the situation.
@20 you speak about the business implications of a growing bed bug infestation.
It certainly seems as if you are blaming the government for not having an aggressive enough roll in preventing its growth.

Look, I don't know why you just don't say it.
YES, the government should be heavily involved in assuring the bed bug infestation does not grow, and that it be turned back.

Inspections of hotels, motels, apartment buildings, laundries, gyms and other business establishments where bed bugs are known to spread should be done more frequently and more thoroughly by public health authorities, and if additional taxes are needed to staff the increased vigilance increased taxes should be levied.


I don't think we need to spend any time or money researching how to do this. This ain't Lithium-ion batteries on a carbon-fiber plane.
We know how to do this. We need to do it with our government.

Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 18, 2013 02:05 PM
31. re @30,
I screwed up providing the link to the CDC/EPA rpt.
Here it is - http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/ehs/publications/bed_bugs_cdc-epa_statement.htm

Also, as someone who rents out apartments I can speak authoritatively about the ease of bed bug and pest inspections and remediations. All of our lease agreements carry bed bug, lice, etc policy.

Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 18, 2013 02:09 PM
32. "I'm tired of your faux outrage at things that don't matter and can't happen. The question before us is how to stop the gun related murdering, both mass and otherwise, that confronts our society."

Go back and read other's posts before you make stupid comments like the one above !
I am tired of your pathetic strawmen arguments and of the a-hole President that you and your fellow low-information voters elected who care little if any about helping the economy. If you have a problem with that, toughski shitski !

Posted by KDS at January 18, 2013 02:11 PM
33. "Check the number of viewers, not posters to get the complete picture."

You could have saved yourself some time and effort if you'd considered the following: my statement was about concern-trolling toward Seattle, and towards Seattle's citizenry and leaders. Passive readers are, by definition, not concern-trolling to anyone, which is why I mentioned the numbers of bloggers and commenters here, both of which seem to be in chronic, monotonic decline.

Posted by tensor at January 18, 2013 02:17 PM
34. @33 tensor on January 18, 2013 02:17 PM,

No fair using "monotonic" in your reply. Not only are the comprehension skills lacking, doesn't know how to use a dictionary. :-D

Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 18, 2013 02:20 PM
35. MikeBS @ 29:

One thing Mayor Mike could do would be to push for allowance of phosphate detergents for commercial applications. Phosphates are GREAT wetting agents and builders for soaps, and phosphate-bearing detergents do clean better.

Basically, Mayor Mike could let the people cleaning those bedbug-laden beddings use the best detergents we know how to make.

And TC, I'm with you - not a good lunchtime topic! If you want to talk bloodsuckers, we can wait until April... ;)

Posted by Shanghai Dan at January 18, 2013 02:30 PM
36. @18 KDS, JIm doesn't want the thread to be about Pudge and I respect that. You should too.

@19 "I support increase regulation of BUMS, their filthy bug infested clothes and their filthy bug infested bedding."

Respectfully, Rags, because I don't like bums much either, unless Seattle's bums are living in Seattle's hotels and apartment buildings, I don't think that's actually the solution to the problem here.

@20 "Finally, here's a thought that might lead to government-sponsored research, a very profitable commercial product, or both: We really could use a quick and reliable test for the presence of bedbugs, one simple enough to be used by, for instance, a chamber maid."

It's a privte sector problem requiring private sector solutions. If you do a search for "Seattle bed bugs", you'll see that the private sector is all over it. Government research? Why look to the governmient for your solution, Jim? It's not like if the Fairmont-Olympic found a bed bug they'd call the mayor. Geez, I'd think you'd know better. I also doubt that a Bug-Detecto-Meter is necessary when staff training would suffice. Bed bugs hide in known places. Look for them. If the clientel knows they're there, the staff and management should too.

If there's an agony to be had over Seattle bed bugs, Jim, it should be with the private sector, those hotel and apartment owners who don't do anything when there's a known infestation. Perhaps you'd like to suggest the formation of new government regulations and department to enforce them. Not me. I'll let the private sector take care of it.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 18, 2013 02:38 PM
37. @35 Shanghai Dan on January 18, 2013 02:30 PM,
Just how does a Mayor "push for" anything and how would one measure his/her effectiveness such that a "congratulations" would be in order?

Look, I'm no expert in all of this, but to my knowledge it is the King County government which has jurisdiction and a department charged to promote public health and ensure compliance
http://www.kingcounty.gov/healthservices/health/ehs.aspx

Your proposal regarding phosphates may or not be a good way to fight bed bugs, but "push"ing would seem to be as effective as pissing up a rope.

Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 18, 2013 02:38 PM
38. MBS enlightens me with, "FYI, the Center for Disease Control sees bed bugs as a health concern"

Well, that does it!

I say there's no time to research a Bed-Bug-Detecto-Meter, Jim. No, the city desperately needs new bug laws and an armed, law enforcing bug squad. I suggest you write a letter to the mayor.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 18, 2013 02:50 PM
39. Imagine that largest infestation is in the low-information Obama voter zones.

Posted by hellpig at January 18, 2013 03:01 PM
40. @39 Why can't it be Republican CEO's staying at Seattle's hotels after returning from some third world country? You know, like after inspecting a factory with it's high walls, guard towers and barbed-wire. You know what I mean, the place where they shipped your job.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 18, 2013 03:31 PM
41. @35 "push for allowance of phosphate detergents for commercial applications"

That doesn't appear to be necessary. There's a lot of good bed bug info on this PSU site.

http://www.personal.psu.edu/lph1/index_files/Page951.html

A clothes dryer running at 115 degrees will kill bed bugs. So will steam.

Personal responsibility. And education. It's not just for progressives, you know? Try it sometime.

Really, if Jim had done even minimal research before he posted then he could have educated you on how to take personal responsibility for your bed bugs rather than lead you all to pointlessly talk about the mayor, liberals and bums. Bed bugs don't discriminate between left and right or rich and poor. It isn't someone's lifestyle. All it requires is a visitor coming to your home carrying bugs and you can have an infestation too.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 18, 2013 03:58 PM
42. What is the world coming to? First the media posts a map showing everyone which houses guns could be found, then the media posts a map showing which houses have bedbugs, what's next, is Sound Politics going to purchase a map showing which houses have people who used credit cards to make purchases at Adult Only stores?

Posted by doug at January 18, 2013 03:59 PM
43. MikeBS:

I guess political leaders can't draw attention to issues or propose solutions and try to use their influence and position of visibility to accomplish anything...

If you can't figure out how a mayor could push to have some regulation at least re-examined, if not repealed, then what can a mayor do about anything?

Posted by Shanghai Dan at January 18, 2013 04:18 PM
44. No fair using "monotonic" in your reply. Not only are the comprehension skills lacking, doesn't know how to use a dictionary. :-D

Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 18, 2013 02:20 PM

Another smart a$$ insult from the king of low information voters himself.

Sure, its unfair to you that the mayor be blamed for this kind of thing, just like the president should not be blamed for the bad economy (only because they are liberals).

Your hypocrisy is obvious, because it is readily apparent from your previous comments that you would not hesitate to blame bedbugs on a Republican mayor or the bad economy on Bush or the last Republican in office who made it that way !

Posted by KDS at January 18, 2013 04:41 PM
45. It's clear that Mike McGinn is responsible for the bed bug infeastations -- and in cities with Republican mayors, it's the fault of the prior DemocratIC politicians.

That much is clear. Be polite, I'm armed.

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51. @44 "Another smart a$$ insult"

Why the whine? I'd think that you could appreciate such a thing. After all, you're the one who likes to call progressives "fascists" and this nation's president a "dick-tator".

"Your hypocrisy is obvious"

And your hypocricy? Apparently that's not so obvious, huh, KDS?

Tensor, MBS, Dorky - they try to inject a sense of humor into discussion. At the right's expense, of course. From the right, Jim, Rags and others try to put some humor out there as well, tweaking the left. Try lightening up now and then, maybe show us a different side of yourself, one with less whine and more chuckles.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 19, 2013 09:27 AM
52. " @18 KDS, JIm doesn't want the thread to be about Pudge and I respect that. You should too."

You have a bad habit of trying to put words in others mouths. Jim was referring to tensor. OK, I respect your surrender and will move on.

"Tensor, MBS, Dorky - they try to inject a sense of humor into discussion. At the right's expense, of course. From the right, Jim, Rags and others try to put some humor out there as well, tweaking the left. Try lightening up now and then, maybe show us a different side of yourself, one with less whine and more chuckles."

They may think they are funny but they are unable to do that without getting personal and like you their ignorance and misguided views show through loud and clear. That is why I refer to you all as "low information voters" and that is constructive and I try to encourage you to read more than leftwing biased sources but that goes in one ear and out the other. If you want a more light-hearted discussion, then DON'T MAKE IT PERSONAL. I seriously question if you and the others on the left mentioned above will do that in the quest for a more light discussion. I can do and keep it civil if you and your ilk can respect others' views and be less personal. We can correct each other, but that requires both sides being open to the fact they may not be 100% correct and there are few black and white solutions.

I and others who are more conservative will reciprocate if you and your leftwing buddies do this. At this time, the tenor of the debate seems more like the Israleis vs. the Palestinians, which is probably sending people away from this blog.

Posted by KDS at January 19, 2013 10:16 AM
53. I think it's funny that if you post something critical of pudge on one of his threads, he'll censor it in less than a minute. Spam posts by robots about counterfeit gucci and online casinos stay up forever, though.

Someone should tell the spammers they'd be better off spamming blogs that people still read!

Posted by AD at January 19, 2013 11:26 AM
54. This post gives new meaning to "Good night, sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite."

A clothes dryer running at 115 degrees will kill bed bugs. So will steam.

Yep, after we bring the critters home we can all just throw our mattresses into the dryer. Pardon my eyeroll.

On an OFF TOPIC, I am shocked and pleasantly surprised with HuffPo... especially in the video when they refer to the subject at 24 hours at the 2:30 minute mark.

I wonder how their typical readers will reconcile this with their strident, closed minded militarism on this issue.

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 19, 2013 01:14 PM
55. Also, as someone who rents out apartments I can speak authoritatively about the ease of bed bug and pest inspections and remediations. All of our lease agreements carry bed bug, lice, etc policy. - Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 18, 2013 02:09 PM

Sure it's easy when you have a long lease. Hotels have a hugely different turnover. Apples and oranges.

take a little time to compose an email to him explaining your grievance and what you would like him to do about it. - Posted by Jim Miller at January 18, 2013 12:24 PM

I have not been able to find emails of most of the authors at SP, nor Pudge's on his site.

Go ask Pudge, assuming he'll let you. - Posted by tensor at January 18, 2013 10:55 AM

I do not have a problem with Pudge's behavior. His banning of me was the greatest compliment he could ever possibly give me. :-) Posted by tensor at January 18, 2013 01:24 PM

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60. Really, if Jim had done even minimal research before he posted then he could have educated you on how to take personal responsibility for your bed bugs rather than lead you all to pointlessly talk about the mayor, liberals and bums.

Longtime readers here know this was a feature, and not -- wait for it! -- a bug! (NYUKNYUNYUK...)

Sorry, I just could not resist. :-)

Posted by tensor at January 19, 2013 05:31 PM
61. Jim @17 -- that's some pretty good advice, in abstract. You might want to send it to pudge, who wastes no time in banning any commenter who displeases him.

While my brevity may, understandably, have led you to believe I was referring only to pudge, I also had you in mind. When your post accusing Gov. Inslee of "dishonesty" was met with skeptical rebuttal, I predicted (comment #11) that you might "close comments and declare victory." You have since closed the comments to that post, and published another post repeating your accusation, again claiming it is true, but not allowing comments. I thank you for validating my suspicion, but again, I really must ask what purpose you think such autocratic, intolerant behavior serves.

(At least in the follow-up post, you provided enough information for a reader to discern the erroneous assumption underlying your invalid accusation. If you open the comments at that post, I will gladly explain what you got wrong, and why it invalidates your repeated claims of Gov. Inslee's "dishonesty".)

Posted by tensor at January 19, 2013 05:46 PM
62. This a repeat of @56 - to make this easier to check out;

Cause for concern ? you be the judge...



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65. Try not to be so unhinged, KDS.

"Yep, after we bring the critters home we can all just throw our mattresses into the dryer. Pardon my eyeroll."

Read the Mayo Clinic link and the eyes will roll less and the brain will grow more. You'll understand in what situations a clothes dryer is useful and others in which steam is useful. There are other remedies on that site as well. It's not like they're lying liberals. Rags. They know what they're talking about and they're trying to help.

Where's your sine remark directed to Jim about his silly idea of government funded research to come up with a Bed-Bug-Detecto-Meter? That was the most ridiculous idea posted here, by a conservative, no less, and none of you have anything to say about it. Why? Dare you not criticize your own?

On the other hand, maybe you all just want to have a whine-fest over how the Mayor of Seattle isn't holding your hand and solving all of your bed bug problems, which seems to what Jim is trying to do wth this thread.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 19, 2013 08:00 PM
66. "Try not to be so unhinged, KDS."

What is your problem with it ? It was a reasonable video and everyone can draw their own conclusions - you disavow trying to connect the dots, DS - because you would not be able to make a cogent argument - go ahead try it or don't. At least explain your comments - All I read is empty rhetoric, without substance. Why are you so reactionary ? Unhinged ? pot meet kettle.

"Read the Mayo Clinic link and the eyes will roll less and the brain will grow more. You'll understand in what situations a clothes dryer is useful and others in which steam is useful. There are other remedies on that site as well. It's not like they're lying liberals. Rags. They know what they're talking about and they're trying to help."

You naivety amazes me - how long have you lived in a cocoon DS ? Liberals have good intentions, but too often they neglect the consequences and cover up with lies, which is unfortunate - why don't you leftist just state your true agenda instead of hiding it ? (I have my belief as to why, but would like to hear your side). So show us a Mayo Clinic instead your hand waving. Just post it. Hey, since I don't live in Seattle I don't care about their stinkin' bedbug problem - not to be callous but it does not affect me.

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For I know the truth will set us all free. I am hoping that the notion suggested in the video is weaker in 2015 than it is now, but at the present time my gut feeling is that it does not bode well for the 44th President.

As for the future of the Republican party, their future looks rocky and it won't survive without notable changes such as who is the leadership. For the sake of the Republic, two sick parties (each for different reasons) will do noone any long term good (it may benefit Social Democrat party for the short term though, but not in the long run.

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You linked to a birther-Kenyan-Jihadist video, KDS. Really, I connected the dots and the only conclusion I can draw from it is that you are completely unhinged as well as way off-topic.

"So show us a Mayo Clinic instead your hand waving. Just post it."

I posted the Mayo Clinic link @14, you blathering idiot.

"since I don't live in Seattle I don't care about their stinkin' bedbug problem"

Then what's up with your fourteen comments in the bed bug thread? Or were you just looking for the opportunity to go all unhinged, angry birther on us?

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Here, try this try this truth out for size, Birther Guy. You've become completely unhinged.

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The second term of Barack Hussein Obama, the only president since Eisenhower to win 51% in two elections, begins today!

4 more years of climbing out of the hole GWB and his cohorts threw us in. 4 more years of continued growth.
And, without a doubt, 4 more years of the peanut gallery closing its eyes and in your demented tantrum declaring the end is near!

AKORN! Birth Certificate! Romney! Greece!!!!

Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 20, 2013 08:44 AM
79. Hi MikeBS,

So it's still "Bush's fault"? When does it become Obama's responsibility?

Posted by Shanghai Dan at January 20, 2013 08:50 AM
80. @79 Shanghai Dan on January 20, 2013 08:50 AM,

It has been Obama's responsibility to clean up Bush's mess since January 20 2009.
He's doing such a good job at moving the country forward that he was overwhelmingly re-elected to have the responsibility to clean up Bush's mess for 4 more years.

This is somehow unclear to you?


Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 20, 2013 09:11 AM
81. @69 - "You linked to a birther-Kenyan-Jihadist video, KDS. Really, I connected the dots and the only conclusion I can draw from it is that you are completely unhinged as well as way off-topic."

LIAR. It was nothing of the sort. There was only one video that I referenced and it profiled Adolf Hitler. I did not reference any other videos that were associated. You inject a false argument and lie once again, as I am not a birther. You are ignorant of history and a reactionary caricature ! You need to stay on your meds and local authorities should be alerted that you not be permitted to possess a firearm with your unbalanced mental state, based on the constant vitreol and irrationality of your comments.

"since I don't live in Seattle I don't care about their stinkin' bedbug problem"

"Then what's up with your fourteen comments in the bed bug thread? Or were you just looking for the opportunity to go all unhinged, angry birther on us?"

Your can't count either. A totally incoherent comment, stevie. You show to be a closet fascist with your lack of tolerance. I do not care about the bedbug issue, but feel that the King County Health Dept. and the City of Seattle have the responsibility of working together to force the locations to comply with health standards. The remainder of your childish and unhinged comments are laughable. There is no connection between being apathetic about the bedbug problem reported in Seattle and calling someone an unhinged, birther and your faux outrage. You cannot make an argument on substance because you are afraid of losing.

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 09:21 AM
82. MikeBS @ 80:

OK, so how has the situation improved since "the mess" left by President Bush?

Deficit has skyrocketed.

Debt has skyrocketed.

Unemployment has increased.

Poverty has increased.

Number of deaths in Afghanistan are up by a factor of 4.

Housing is still dead.

What's been his improvement so far, by your reckoning?

Posted by Shanghai Dan at January 20, 2013 09:25 AM
83. @81 KDS on January 20, 2013 09:21 AM,

"I do not care about the bedbug issue, but feel that the King County Health Dept. and the City of Seattle have the responsibility of working together to force the locations to comply with health standards."

And just how would King County and Seattle city hall force compliance?

We'll let pass for the moment that you don't know what standards vis-a-vis bed bugs exist or not.

Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 20, 2013 09:25 AM
84. @ 82 Shanghai Dan on January 20, 2013 09:25 AM,

Hey, those sure sound like the arguments that Romney/Ryan made against the Obama administration.
How'd that election go? Was it close?
Maybe like Rove you think it is premature to call it? :-D


Democracy, how does it work? (h/t tensor)

Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 20, 2013 09:29 AM
85. Mike BS spewed:
"The second term of Barack Hussein Obama, the only president since Eisenhower to win 51% in two elections, begins today!
4 more years of climbing out of the hole GWB and his cohorts threw us in."

What hole ? He has gratuitously dug that hole deeper. To his credit, he has taken us out of Iraq, per Bush-43 pre-arranged plan of a war we should not have been involved in the first place.

"4 more years of continued growth."

Who are you trying to fool ? Do you call 2% increase in GDP significant growth ? The growth is anemic. Even the growth under Bush-43 in a majority of his 2 terms was well above what the economic growth has been under Obama and the Clinton economy grew way more than the economy since 2009 . I hope that economic growth is increased in his 2nd term, but unless his burdensome regulatory policies that he signed into law (along with Obamacare) in his 1st term are modified or repealed, I don't see it happening. You are living in a dream world with that type ignorant blather, but Obamunism kool aid has an anesthetizing affect.

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 09:32 AM
86. And just how would King County and Seattle city hall force compliance?

We'll let pass for the moment that you don't know what standards vis-a-vis bed bugs exist or not.
Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 20, 2013 09:25 AM

What is your point ? Try County and City health standards. If bedbugs exist, try citing the health regulation that have been promulgated that are relevant to removal of insect pests that are potential health hazards in hotels, motels (not individual residences) that the affect the paying public. If there aren't any regs for this, there should probably be some ? Agree ?

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 09:38 AM
87. @ KDS & Shanghai Dan,

I LOVE those bitter mittenfreude tears!

mittenfreude- the pleasure derived from the misfortunes of Mitt Romney

4 MORE YEARS of Obamunism kool aid! Drink up kids!

Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 20, 2013 09:39 AM
88. @86 KDS on January 20, 2013 09:38 AM,

You really are a dimwitted dolt.
"If bedbugs exist, try citing the health regulation that have been promulgated"

What are those promulgated regulations?

You tell us, if regulations don't exist are you calling for increased regulations on business?

And you did not answer the question (not that you are capable).

Just how would King County and Seattle city hall force compliance?

Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 20, 2013 09:43 AM
89. Try this for bedbug removal and maybe the county should adopt -

http://www.pestmall.com/eco-keeper-bed-bugs-glue-traps.html?gclid=COXPh5m_97QCFQ_hQgodG1MAdw

@87 - You didn't dispute my point about the economy, so you change the topic. Romney was a good man, but not the right candidate - to the chagrin of 48% of the voters who showed up in November. Chris Christie for one would have been a more solid opponent.

I don't want any of the Obamunism bilge that passes for kool aid, so all the more for you and the rest of the low information voters.

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 09:48 AM
90. And you did not answer the question (not that you are capable).

Just how would King County and Seattle city hall force compliance?

Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 20, 2013 09:43 AM

I did answer the question. If you really do know it, then cite us the current health regulations relating to bed bugs or other pests.

Compliance ? There could be health inspections on an annual basis. Restaurants have required inspections by the health department(s). Do they currently ? Possibly not, but I don't have time to read through the County and City health policies, but if you have one - don't be a typical coy SOB about it and make some cheap insult, just post it. Jim probably is also unaware.

Lastly, if lodging in the areas found to have bedbugs find it to be detrimental to their occupancy rates, they could take it upon themselves to use some of the proven methods (I posted one) to remove bedbugs. This may well be the eventual remedy.

If you have such disdain for this website, you have a funny way of showing it with your numerous postings. So you have helped the PR.

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 10:03 AM
91. "If bedbugs exist, try citing the health regulation that have been promulgated"

"What are those promulgated regulations?"

MBS- I asked you to cite them, since you are the self-proclaimed expert. You answered it in a schister lawyer in an arrogant knowitall manner. Your comments display that you are an idiot when it comes to understanding the economy and the role that small business plays in a free market economy.

Did pudge really ban you are were you making that up for adverse publicity sake ? I would be shocked - I tell you, if you have the temerity to truthfully answer that question.

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 10:19 AM
92. KDS sez, "You show to be a closet fascist with your lack of tolerance.

Actually, my intolerance of right-wing extremist nonsense makes me a commie-fascist.

"the King County Health Dept. and the City of Seattle have the responsibility of working together to force the locations to comply with health standards."

More government is the solution to bed bugs? OK. But this leaves me to wonder if you're not some kind of weird, closeted commie-fascist.

Doctor Steve said, "what's up with your fourteen comments in the bed bug thread?"

Er, make that eighteen.

KDS sez, "Your can't count either."

Um, I asserted that you had made fourteen comments. Now it's up to you to prove me wrong. That's what's called, "pulling a KDS". See how it works? I suggest that you repost all of your comments, renumber them, and then we'll see where it goes.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 10:20 AM
93. Haven't paid much attention to the bedbug issue, but Jim is right, it could cause a drop in tourism and have a negative impact on the local economy. The role of the government, if they don't have positive solutions, is to get out of the way and let hotels use all measures that have been proven successful in the past to eliminate infestations.

As for MBS and his blame Bush meme - like Obama, Bush was just president, not King. In order for Bush to dig a hole, he needed help.

The underlying cause of the recession was the subprime mortgage mess that was enabled by politicians from both parties under multiple presidents, though several attempts to slow it down were rebuffed intensely and blocked by Democrat legislators (Barney Frank to name one).

The hole that was dug for our first trillion dollar deficit was indeed proposed by Bush, but heavily and enthusiastically supported by the Democrats. The Democrats were so enthusiastic about all of this new spending that they continued it for four more years, despite the fact that revenues were not keeping pace, allowing the national debt to increase by 60%.

Here are the facts of the help Bush received to start digging the hole:

Bush proposed and Congress passed S CON RES 70, 5 Jun 2008 with 214 Democrat Yeas and 196 Republican Nays.

"Decreased tax revenue and high spending resulted in an unusually large budget deficit of about $1.4 trillion, well above the $407 billion projected in the FY 2009 budget. A 2009 CBO report indicated that $245 billion, about half of the excess spending, was a result of the 2008 TARP bailouts. Tax cuts resulting from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 accounted for nearly half of the lost revenue."
"The first version of the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (structured as an amendment to H.R. 3997) was rejected by the House of Representatives on September 29.
After its defeat, Senate leaders decided to amend an existing bill from the House in order to circumvent the revenue origination clause of U.S. Constitution, and chose H.R. 1424 as the vehicle for the legislation.

On September 30, 2008, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell announced the proposed draft had been formalized for the amendment that would transform H.R. 1424 into the Senate version of the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008.

On October 1, 2008, the amendment to H.R. 1424 was approved by a vote of 74 to 25, and the entire amended bill was passed by 74 to 25. The bill was returned to the House for consideration. On October 3, 2008, the bill as passed by the Senate was accepted by a vote of 263 to 171 in the House."
(House - 197 Democrat and 91 Republican Yeas; 63 Democrat and 108 Republican Nays. Senate - 40 Democrat and 34 Republican Yeas; 10 Democrat and 15 Republican Nays. Obama and Reid voted Yea).
"The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, abbreviated ARRA (Pub.L. 111-5) and commonly referred to as the Stimulus or The Recovery Act, was an economic stimulus package enacted by the 111th United States Congress in February 2009 and signed into law on February 17, 2009, by President Barack Obama."

Arguably, Bush may have started it, but the Democrats were not innocent bystanders or non-participants.

Both parties have found it easy to increase spending resulting in trillion dollar deficits, but most can't find it in themselves to cut any spending to reduce the debt. Both sides should be ashamed.

Posted by SouthernRoots at January 20, 2013 10:38 AM
94. @93 SouthernRoots on January 20, 2013 10:38 AM,
"Both sides should be ashamed."

Nope. We're proud of the progress we're making on our side.

I won't argue that you and your side should be ashamed. Seems we have a rare point of agreement.

:-D

Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 20, 2013 10:54 AM
95. KDS sez, "Your can't count either."

Um, I asserted that you had made fourteen comments. Now it's up to you to prove me wrong. That's what's called, "pulling a KDS". See how it works? I suggest that you repost all of your comments, renumber them, and then we'll see where it goes.

Dude, I interpreted your comment as I had made 14 comments about the bedbug infestation which was ridiculous. If it instead meant 14 comments in total (including other topics) - it is actually up to 21 now.

KDS sez, "You show to be a closet fascist with your lack of tolerance.

"Actually, my intolerance of right-wing extremist nonsense makes me a commie-fascist.

"the King County Health Dept. and the City of Seattle have the responsibility of working together to force the locations to comply with health standards."

More government is the solution to bed bugs? OK."

You are also intolerant of moderate points of view, so don't pretend to be only intolerant of right-wing extremist views and advocate government being the solution which it is NOT.
I did not advocate that the government try to control this, if not already a law. Enforcement of the numerous laws that are worthless also creates a spending problem (i.e. the war on drugs), but that's another topic. The marketplace will ultimately dictate how this problem is dealt with and there are ways to deal with bedbugs by entities other than the government and new laws are not the answer.

You didn't bother to read my previous posts like this;
"Lastly, if lodging in the areas found to have bedbugs find it to be detrimental to their occupancy rates, they could take it upon themselves to use some of the proven methods (I posted one) to remove bedbugs. This may well be the eventual remedy." In other words, I concur with the comments from @93 - Southern Roots.

Lastly, you are trying to conflate the bedbug problem in Seattle with the controversial video that I posted to advance your argument - those dots don't connect. That just shows that you are an unhinged wannabe commie-fascist reactionary and a caricature who is mentally unbalanced !

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 11:10 AM
96. "the controversial video that I posted"

Oh, you mean the video comparing our nation's president to Hitler? That wasn't controverial, KDS. It was damned stupid. Like you.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 11:43 AM
97. Hitler? You strike me as becoming increasingly angry and unhinged by the minute, KDS. No, seriously, I mean it. You may not be able to do anything about being unhinged, but at least try to control the anger.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 11:47 AM
98. @96 & @97 - You have no relevant argument whatever so you resort to name calling and little taunts. When it comes to common sense, you are an idiot and I am the only one who engages you. If anyone has an anger issue, it is you. I am happy to discuss issues with you in a civilized tone but you are wasting your time with your rude and insulting demeanor.

Let's analyze, why do you feel so threatened about the suggestion that there are some similarities between Hitler and Obama ? Grow up and if your government assistance permits you a visit to a mental health counselor - take them up on it. If you think I am insulting you, you're damn right I am !! HAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 12:02 PM
99. DS - Put down the bong for an appreciable length of time. It shows when you are have toked - your posts are narcissistic, immature, incoherent with a deep-seeded paranoia. You are wasting yours and my time, but I can do something about that.

Your contribution @14 was rare and actually informative.

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 12:20 PM
100. You're right MBS, you really have so much of which to be proud.

Posted by SouthernRoots at January 20, 2013 12:40 PM
101. @98 KDS,
Yes, please discuss the similarities you find between Obama and Hitler.

I think many readers would be fascinated with the insight you'd bring to the analysis.

Please proceed.

Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 20, 2013 12:45 PM
102. @101 - Watch the video @62 and decide for yourself.

If you or anyone else wishes to take up the discussion afterward, I will be happy to engage.

Please note my original post @56 - Here's an interesting post on youtube sent by more than one friend/colleague. Take it for what it is, whether you are on the right or left. Cause for concern ? you be the judge...

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 12:55 PM
103. KDS,

Here's a link for you: Godwin's Law.

You're soaking in it!

:-D

N.B.: For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress. [Emphasis mine.]

Posted by tensor at January 20, 2013 01:20 PM
104. tensor - you are premature; no one mentioned the word Nazi until you just did. Therefore, you just lost the argument. As I wrote to MBS; "Watch the video @62 and decide for yourself."

If you watch the video @62 - it is self explanatory and there is no need for further explanation :()

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 01:28 PM
105. MikeBS @ 84:

Cool, so we agree things have gotten worse under Obama. That's all I was wondering about!

Posted by Shanghai Dan at January 20, 2013 01:33 PM
106. The bigger infestation in Seattle is the entitled low info voters. And it is incurable.

Posted by Leftover at January 20, 2013 01:34 PM
107. ...no one mentioned the word Nazi until you just did.

KDS @ 81:

There was only one video that I referenced and it profiled Adolf Hitler.

(Note: Go back and read my quote about Godwin's Law again. It clearly refers to "Nazis" in the general case, and so a reference to their Party's infamous Leader is most certainly thus a reference to them.)

Happy soaking, loser!

;-)

Posted by tensor at January 20, 2013 01:38 PM
108. tensor @107 False, I only mentioned Adolf Hitler and left the rest up to the listener. Not once did it mention anyone else's name or the word Nazi until you did. Nice try, keep flailing...

@106 - Correct. He is part of the infestation of low information voters and the ultimate loser !

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 01:43 PM
109. @107 - Your interpretation of Godwin's law is perverted as is your extremist ideology. Your futile attempts of putting words in other's mouths from your mouth only fools low information voters like yourself.

If you want to engage in a discussion related to the video @62 of substance, I'd be happy to, but am not holding my breath.

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 01:49 PM
110. I only mentioned Adolf Hitler...

Which is totally not a reference to a Nazi. (My god, you're even stupider than Dr. Steve has said you are.) This is fun, though: you're showing a pudge-like level of contortion in refusing to admit obvious error, but without the ability to silence your critics. Here's a hint, loser: that won't end well for you.

If you want to engage in a discussion related to the video @62 of substance...

That last word does not mean what you think it means.

Got bedbugs? Blame Hitler!

:-D

Posted by tensor at January 20, 2013 01:58 PM
111. Got bedbugs?

Blame the government that doesn't allow you to use the most effects means to get rid of them and then doesn't do anything to actually help.

Posted by SouthernRoots at January 20, 2013 02:07 PM
112. Tensor - Is that all you have ? Besides being a pathetic liar, you are incoherent - almost as much as Dr. Steve. Typical low information voter nonsense rhetoric. So what, I mentioned Hitler like the video did, you are an imbecilic narcissist if you think you made any points; you are chasing your tail and looking like a petulant extremist.

You projected yourself, your lost the argument - stop flailing at windmills. You are looking increasingly buffoonish.

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 02:14 PM
113. Roots -- what is the bed-bug remedy of which you so garblingly attempted to speak?

Also: English grammar, how does it work?

:-D

Posted by tensor at January 20, 2013 02:22 PM
114. "what is the bed-bug remedy of which you so garblingly attempted to speak?"

Some are shown in the link below;
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/bedbugs/DS00663/DSECTION=causes

It can be done.

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 02:32 PM
115. It looks like someone put KDS' comments through Janus Node. Maybe that was a well-intentioned attempt to rid them of bed-bugs?

:-)

Keep on bringing the stupid, KDS. I understand that Jim set the starting-point high by blaming Mayor McGinn for Seattle's bed-bug non-issue, but you've given us confidence you can outdo even that. Keep calm and carry on!

Posted by tensor at January 20, 2013 02:36 PM
116. Sorry Tensor, my garblingly is rusty, could you repeat?

Posted by SouthernRoots at January 20, 2013 02:37 PM
117. Hitler? You strike me as becoming increasingly angry and unhinged by the minute, KDS. No, seriously, I mean it. You may not be able to do anything about being unhinged, but at least try to control the anger.

Yes, please discuss the similarities you find between Obama and Hitler.

Here's a link for you: Godwin's Law. You're soaking in it!

Ha ha ha. Somehow you found it acceptable when the comparison was GW.
Can loud lefty's spell H Y P O C R I T E?
Or situational ethics?
What the hell do you loud lefty's see when you look in the mirror? A chameleon? Or a two faced opportunist?

So, while Seattle is deservedly over run with bedbugs, this thread has clearly eradicated the issue.

Here's a few topics for our loud lefty's that I found interesting:

Ray Nagin

This week the Government Accountability Office released its annual audit of the U.S. government. The conclusion: 'Absent policy changes, the federal government continues to face an unsustainable fiscal path.'

The fact that in addition to ROE recanting her stand on abortion, the subject of the second case that awful day 40 years ago, Smith, has also changed her position

In terms of lives lost, the daily number of abortions equates to having almost 150 Newtowns every single day for an entire year for 40 straight years.

Presidential wannabe NY Dem Gov. Andrew Cuomo Pushing Bill Allowing Third-Trimester Abortions...

That Obama's approval is 20 points less now than 2 years ago and 8 points less than just before the New Year

DC lowers turnout projections for inauguration

Americans Collecting Disability Hits All-Time Record

That the NRA has a higher approval rating than Obama

65% See Gun Rights As Protection Against Tyranny

Courageous Pennsylvania School Officials Nab 5-Year Old Terrorist ... a 5-year-old suspended for threatening to shoot girl with pink toy that blows soapy bubbles

Boys Suspended For Using Fingers As Guns

This

PolitiFact's 'Lie of the Year' Turns Out to Be True

ALL THE HOSTAGES ARE DEAD...

Federal Court Upholds Wisconsin Law on Unions

Married Couples Set to Pay Extra-Large Tax Hike

WE TOLD YOU SO

The 5 Commandments of Being A Jerk

Anti-gun Va. lawmaker, Democratic Delegate Joseph Morrissey, who brandished AK-47 during legislative session was disbarred following assault, death threat

Kirsten Powers says Obama Ignores Fox at News Conferences 'Because He Doesn't Want to be Embarrassed'

Gun Appreciation Day

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 20, 2013 02:40 PM
118. tensor - your willful ignorance is stuck on stupid - you are another caricature. I never said I sided with Jim, so that can be rightly dismissed as a red herring that you threw out.
I would not have chosen this as a topic in the first place.

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Once again; you are an imbecilic narcissist if you think you made any points; you are chasing your tail and looking like a petulant extremist.

Now if they only came up with a remedy to transform low information voters into informed citizens :)

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 02:46 PM
119. Rags -- please give an example of me making a reference to Hitler in a thread which was not about any issue where such a reference might be appropriate. That's one of the criteria for Godwin's Law.

If we liberals referred to how an elected leader's followers continued to show blind loyalty to him, long after his policies were shown to have brought disaster upon his nation and other countries, that would be relevant to the discussion, and thus not an instance of Godwin's Law.

We liberals understand the deep shame, grief, and rage the continued citation of W's many great failures must provoke in you. We're not trying to make you feel bad, although you've richly earned it. We're trying to fix those many large problems you helped to create. If you're incapable of assisting us in our patriotic duty, we understand. You just might want to stop making a fool of yourself by nattering emptily whilst we work. Just sayin'.

Posted by tensor at January 20, 2013 02:56 PM
120. Now if they only came up with a remedy to transform low information voters into informed citizens :)
Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 02:46 PM

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Rags -- please give an example of me making a reference to Hitler in a thread which was not about any issue where such a reference might be appropriate. That's one of the criteria for Godwin's Law.

Did I say YOU? Gosh you must really feel some collective guilt. Search Bush Hitler and see all your loud lefty comrades in their Bush hating glory. You are judged by the company you keep.

We conservatives belief in ACTIONS:CONSEQUENCES. While you're dancing in the streets and having your stoned bacchanalia, we're hunkering down waiting for the pendulum to swing back. Because swing it will. You loud lefty's seem to forget Newton's Law.

If we liberals referred to how an elected leader's followers continued to show blind loyalty to him, long after his policies were shown to have brought disaster upon his nation and other countries, that would be relevant to the discussion, and thus not an instance of Godwin's Law.

OMG! Ha, ha ha!

Question: when will Bambi-the-Wonder-Tyrant start solving the problems HE created?

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 20, 2013 03:12 PM
121. Posted by tensor at January 20, 2013 02:56 PM

"We liberals understand the deep shame, grief, and rage the continued citation of W's many great failures must provoke in you."

Make us puke !! The problem is that Obama has made many of Bush's failures worse and certainly not in a bipartisan, as exemplified by the Stimulus, Obamacare and Dodd-Frank finance reform. None of these were bipartisan.

"We're not trying to make you feel bad, although you've richly earned it."

A blatant lie - you have lost any cred you have now, you loud lefties go out of their way to paint the opposition as extremists, racists and referred to Bush as Bush-Hitler or Bushler.

"We're trying to fix those many large problems you helped to create."

The Democrats created as many or more of the problem as the Republicans did. This administration's method has been to ram through big government solutions, of which a plurality of the public disapprove. Most of these solutions are Democrat party and not bipartisan solutions, which is why the public is against most of these solutions. A bipartisan approach would not only produce better results, but also improve the morale of the public which is not good.


"If you're incapable of assisting us in our patriotic duty, we understand."

That's another fraudulent argument. People do not like overreach by either side and the left has overreached gratuitously at every opportunity since Obama took office. Bush did it also, but not to the degree that has been done since 2008. You don't acknowledge this, therefore you are dishonest and merely reading Democrat party talking points.


"You just might want to stop making a fool of yourself by nattering emptily whilst we work. Just sayin'."

You are a caricature and imbecilic narcissist and show your low information voter mentality loud and clear. Pure bulls**t !

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 03:16 PM
122.
The United States marks 40 years of legalized abortion in all fifty states at any time for any reason throughout pregnancy on Tuesday. That's the anniversary of the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision.

Did you know, that since that fateful decision by nine men on the Supreme Court, almost 56 million unborn children have lost their lives. Since that time, there have been approximately 55,772,015 abortions that have destroyed the lives of unborn children.

Looked at another way, that's 1.394 million abortions each and every year in our great nation. It's 116,191 abortions each and every month in all 50 states. The math breaks down to 26,813 abortions each and every week nationwide. And every day, that's 3,820 abortions.

Almost 4,000 children have died in America from abortions each and every day since 1973.

In terms of lives lost, the daily number of abortions equates to having almost 150 Newtowns every single day for an entire year for 40 straight years.

That's quite an accomplishment you loud lefty proborts celebrate, eh?

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 20, 2013 03:39 PM
123. My goodness! It looks like KDS has become completely unhinged. I just knew he'd totally lose it. The signs were there. What's that now, fourteen Obama/Hitler comments so far?

What about Stalin?? Doesn't a commie-fascist like Obama rate a Stalin comparison for every one of Hitler?

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 03:50 PM
124. If you're incapable of assisting us in our patriotic duty, we understand.

Patriotic duty.

Where is your patriotic duty when your fellow loud lefty's claim the Pledge of Allegiance embarrasses them? Or when they denigrate the country of which you claim patriotism? Or when they eradicate it's rights? When they insult the Constitution? Or when they ignore dead Americans for one campaign then exploit dead Americans for another? Is that how you define patriotic? How about when loud lefty's say they must "Destroy" the opposing party? Or when referring to more than half of America say "These People Are Evil And Mean"

You and your side have a very ugly way of expressing your "patriotism" and love for country. I wish just once you had the fortitude and honesty to say your patriotic with only the part of the country that agrees with you.

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 20, 2013 03:56 PM
125. "In terms of lives lost, the daily number of abortions equates to having almost 150 Newtowns every single day for an entire year for 40 straight years."

If you impose your religious beliefs on everybody then maybe you could put an end to that, Rags.

If it's murder, how about public executions for the real problem, those who hire the baby murderers, the women getting abortions? Without them, the abortion centers would be out of business tomorrow. They're murderesses. They should all be tried and executed, don't you think? Well, executed after they give birth, of course. No sense in tossing the baby out with the bath water.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 04:05 PM
126. "Or when they denigrate the country of which you claim patriotism? Or when they eradicate it's rights? When they insult the Constitution? Or when they ignore dead Americans for one campaign then exploit dead Americans for another? Is that how you define patriotic?"

Actually, no. That's how I define "Republican".

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 04:08 PM
127. @122 - You are duplicitous and projecting exactly what Democrats have done. Another bong hit and more pure bulls**t. That is why you are a low information voter and a useful idiot/wannabe self-proclaimed commie fascist...

"Actually, my intolerance of right-wing extremist nonsense makes me a commie-fascist."

Posted by Doctor Steve

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 04:14 PM
128. @125 &126 - You are duplicitous and projecting exactly what Democrats have done. Another bong hit and more pure bulls**t. That is why you are a low information voter and a useful idiot/wannabe self-proclaimed commie fascist...

"Actually, my intolerance of right-wing extremist nonsense makes me a commie-fascist."

Posted by Doctor Steve

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 04:17 PM
129. If you impose your religious beliefs on everybody then maybe you could put an end to that, Rags.

It's called MORALITY. It means considering all life equal, not just some. It means not joking about the death of 1/7 of the American population. It means mourning them .. and the perpetrators of their deaths. Including you.

Actually, no. That's how I define "Republican".

Of course you do. Of course, you can easily throw invective, (you do it so often and so well), but, here's the thing you give no example. And again: your "patriotism" hates half the citizens of your country ...and the other half are the victims of YOUR liberalism and it's failing policies. Which half do you hate more: the ones you condemn to poverty with the policies you champion or the ones who disagree with your?

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 20, 2013 04:24 PM
130. Please try to control yourself, KDS. You're only getting angrier and even more unhinged. If you don't watch out, your head is going to explode.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 04:28 PM
131. Did I say YOU?

No, you merely put a quote from me immediately before your bitter whine about how "you" compared one hideous failure of leadership with another. Context, how does it work?

Make us puke !!

You beat everyone to it when you exemplified Godwin's Law.

Anyway, I was responding to Rags. I have no expectation that you, KDS, could ever feel any kind of responsibility for the messes your "leaders" created.

In terms of lives lost, the daily number of abortions equates to having almost 150 Newtowns every single day for an entire year for 40 straight years.

We need a corrolary of Godwin's Law for abortion. (Also, please note that rapid-fire handheld weapons are seldom used in safe, legal abortions.)

Posted by tensor at January 20, 2013 04:29 PM
132. @130 - You are nothing but flatulence - hahahahaha

@131 - You can't handle the truth, tensor. You can take Godwin's law and suck on it - you are such a tool !

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 04:45 PM
133. "It's called MORALITY."

No, it's called freedom. If someone's faith informs them that ensoulment occurs at birth, then who are you to impose your faith on them or anybody else?

How are you planning on enforcing your personal morality on everybody, Rags? Should women who hire someone to murder their blastocyst be tried for murder and, if found guilty, executed? Will you call for the investigation of every miscarriage to determine whether or not murder has been committed? Sounds like a call for big, intrusive government. Kind of like your side is doing with bed bugs in this thread.

Really, your side appears to love you some big government to comes to abortion and bed bugs. But feeding the poor and healing the sick as Jesus would have us do? Eh, not so much, huh?

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 04:45 PM
134. My goodness! It looks like KDS has become completely unhinged. I just knew he'd totally lose it. The signs were there. What's that now, fourteen Obama/Hitler comments so far?

What about Stalin?? Doesn't a commie-fascist like Obama rate a Stalin comparison for every one of Hitler?
Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 03:50 PM

You are chasing your tail and ridden with guilt. Noone compared Obama to Hitler until you did - feel the guilt... It really sucks to be you, doesn't it ! hahahahahaaha

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 04:49 PM
135. "hahahahaha"

Hmm, the psycho-laugh. I knew this was coming. This isn't a good sign, KDS.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 04:49 PM
136. Evidently, you know from your own experience nutcase stevie. Then you should be afraid, be very afraid. hahahahahaha

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 04:57 PM
137. "Noone compared Obama to Hitler until you did - feel the guilt..."

Geez, unhinged much? No, you posted a link to a video that pushed the Obama/Hitler thing and now you've been babbling on and on about Hitler for the last half of this thread. What's it now, twenty Hitler comments? I suggest that you get real and emit another psycho-laugh, KDS.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 04:57 PM
138. tensor spewed; could ever feel any kind of responsibility for the messes your "leaders" created.

Your reading comprehension is failing -

I wrote; "The problem is that Obama has made many of Bush's failures worse"

and,"the left has overreached gratuitously at every opportunity since Obama took office. Bush did it also, but not to the degree that has been done since 2008"

Both instances acknowledged the failures of Bush-43. An inconvenient truth that rendered your argument false. Lieing about accusations of this type enhances polarization - trying to catch flies with vinegar doesn't work/duh ! No empathy for arrogance, ignorance and stupidity from here.

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 05:09 PM
139. @137 - you didn't even watch the video, stevie. I doubt it because you keep misrepresenting it.

You are overwhelmed by guilt - this is not a laughing matter. It is one of sadness - mental illness is that way :(

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 05:14 PM
140. I watched enough of your video, KDS. Well, enough to know that you're a pathetic, hate-filled loon who is reduced to posting links to Obama/Hitler videos on wingnut blogs. Loser.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 05:23 PM
141. .
You know, you in the (un)SP peanut gallery who are overwrought about government inaction against private businesses not taking bed bugs seriously ought to reach out to your preferred candidate for President and get him to use his awesome leadership skills to transform his campaign organization into a grass roots political organization like the reelected President and former community organizer, Barack Obama, did with OFA.

Just think what of you could accomplish if you put your mind to it.
...

Yeah, now that I think about it y'all wouldn't get anything done.
Goodnight. Don't let the bed bugs bite.

Posted by MikeBoyScout at January 20, 2013 05:28 PM
142. I watched enough of your video, KDS. Well, enough to know that you're a pathetic, hate-filled loon who is reduced to posting links to Obama/Hitler videos on wingnut blogs. Loser. Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 05:23 PM

stevie, my fiend - you are a paranoid mental midget loser who is a hate-filled self-proclaimed commie fascist. For you enough is 5 seconds to explode your THC addled brain. Did I already say that it really sucks to be you ?

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 05:42 PM
143. No, it's called freedom. If someone's faith informs them that ensoulment occurs at birth, then who are you to impose your faith on them or anybody else?

Freedom to KILL. So you must support the death penalty. Good to know.
It has nothing to do with "ensoulment" - what the hell does that even mean? It has to do with LIFE, which has been proven to begin long before a woman can know she's pregnant.

Clearly you missed the reference at the 2:30 mark in the video in the HuffPo article

How are you planning on enforcing your personal morality on everybody, Rags?

False premise... (color me shocked). I don't impose my morality on anyone. I believe, again, in ACTIONS:CONSEQUENCES and, further, I believe in changing hearts and minds about the murder of innocent children in the womb with facts and science. Science is not on the side of the proborts, their cheerleaders, nor those who profit from killing children in the womb.

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 20, 2013 05:52 PM
144. I watched enough of your video, KDS.

...Says a loud lefty who claims to have an open mind.

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 20, 2013 05:53 PM
145. Most women do not discover they are pregnant until 4-6 weeks after they conceive, usually within 2 weeks after the first missed period, often not until after the SECOND missed period

Day 22: heart begins to beat with the child's own blood, often a different type than the mothers'.

Week 3: By the end of third week the child's backbone spinal column and nervous system are forming. The liver, kidneys and intestines begin to take shape.

Week 4: By the end of week four the child is ten thousand times larger than the fertilized egg.

Week 5: Eyes, legs, and hands begin to develop.

Week 6: Brain waves are detectable; mouth and lips are present; fingernails are forming.

Week 7: Eyelids, and toes form, nose distinct. The baby is kicking and swimming.

Week 8: Every organ is in place, bones begin to replace cartilage, and fingerprints begin to form. By the 8th week the baby can begin to hear.

It's ok though, eh, proborts - your just killing a Chevy ... with a heart beat, spine, eyelids toes, nose and every organ of a HUMAN child.

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 20, 2013 06:01 PM
146. MBS sez, "you in the (un)SP peanut gallery who are overwrought about government inaction against private businesses not taking bed bugs seriously ought to reach out to your preferred candidate for President and get him to use his awesome leadership skills"

You might have something there, MBS. Maybe. As any God-fearing Republican knows, God works in mysterious ways. He chose Obama to save America from Republicans and now it appears that he might have given Mitt Romney a calling as well, to save Marriott Hotels from litigous mothers pissed off about bed bugs devouring their children.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/03/romney-re-joins-marriotts-corporate-board/comment-page-1/

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/story/19325218/mothers-suing-marriott-over-bed-bugs-at-lisle-hotel

We can all check in later and see how Mitt's doing with his bed bug problems. By the way, a search for "Marriott bed bugs" is, well, disgusting, to say the least. Say, isn't Marriott where Republicans always stay?

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 06:16 PM
147. "...Says a loud lefty who claims to have an open mind"

My dear Ms. Wingnut requires one of me.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 06:26 PM
148. "Freedom to KILL."

What's someone else's soulless blastocyst to you? You would impose the tenents of your Christian faith on Christians who believe otherwise. You, who advocates for small, unintrusive government, actually makes a silent call for Very Huge Government when it comes to imposing your faith on others.

What a thread! Wingnuts have called for government funded research to come up with a Bed-Bug-Detecto-Meter and now a call for federal, state, county and city agencies and departments to be created to investigate America's miscarriages. Being good Christian Republicans, you'll want to offset the expense, of course, by taking food from the mouths of America's poor.

Soulless Republicans. Hmm, could it be that ensoulment doesn't always happen?

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 06:51 PM
149. What's someone else's soulless blastocyst to you?

A blastocyte, an embryo, a fetus, a clump of undefined cells, whatever word you use to soothe/fool your conscience, A HUMAN - with human DNA of both parents, therefore it can be NOTHING else.

Medical technology has come a long way since 1973. It has told us what we knew in our hearts all along; namely, that abortion, regardless of the trimester in which it is performed, constitutes a deprivation of life.

Ultrasound technology allows us a better view of the target of the procedure known as abortion. It takes little intelligence to understand that something that is moving (and growing) is indeed alive. Technology also shows us that a new heart is beating within a month of conception. Surgical abortions are not even performed until 6 to 7 weeks into the pregnancy.

"Destruction of the embryo in the mother's womb is a violation of the right to live which God has bestowed upon this nascent life. To raise the question of whether we are here concerned already with a human being or not is merely to confuse the issue. The simple fact is that God certainly intended to create a human being and that this nascent human being has been deliberately deprived of its life. And that is nothing but murder." - Dietrich Bonheoffer.


Of course our tolerant proborts think they can choose who gets to live - or die - by calling it choice. Ask them what they are choosing: they will turn themselves inside out rather than admit a human child.

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 20, 2013 07:24 PM
150. *Ask them what they are choosing: they will turn themselves inside out rather than admit KILLING a human child.

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 20, 2013 07:28 PM
151. "the right to live which God has bestowed upon this nascent life"

There you go again, Rags, calling for the imposition of your faith on others. You're not into freedom of religion much, are you?

I imagine there'll be varying levels of offense if your vision for America comes to pass. If a woman has a miscarriage and you attribute it to an unholy lifestyle, then maybe that's only neglegent homicide. Abortion would be premeditated murder, of course, for both the abortionist and mother.

I'm sure if bastocysts are being murdered, you'll want your Very Big Government to do something about it. It sounds expensive, what with investigating every miscarriage to determine if it was murder. How many of those are there a year, millions? I reckon you'll want to to monitor the nation's uteruses to know what's going on. How else will you know? Then there's the imprisonment and execution of all those women. How do you propose paying for this, Rags? More tax breaks for the rich? That's your usual solution to fiscal problems.

Considering these rather insurmountable logistical and fiscal problems presented to you as you attempt to impose your faith on others, little wonder your side has opted to just shoot doctors and blow up clinics.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 07:53 PM
152. On the other hand, Steve is just fine with using government to impose his belief system and world view upon others.

I guess it just depends on whose Gore is being oxed.

Posted by SouthernRoots at January 20, 2013 08:12 PM
153. There you go again, Rags, calling for the imposition of your faith on others. You're not into freedom of religion much, are you?

How typically dishonest of you. What's sad is you know it.

I imagine

Go for it. Indulge yourself. Won't make any of your imaginings TRUE.

Then there's the imprisonment and execution of all those women. How do you propose paying for this, Rags?

A proposition solely of your imagination, as NOT ONCE has anyone ever suggested this... except of course YOU - to change the subject.

Considering these rather insurmountable logistical and fiscal problems

More subject changing. Thanks for proving my point.

little wonder your side has opted to just shoot doctors and blow up clinics.

What year is it? Even your proborts say the LAST act of violence was ONCE in 2009... that was by an extremist and thoughtful, sincere, prolife folks, like me, condemned him. Even though almost every pro-life group issued a statement condemning the murder of George Tiller, pro-choice activists still point the finger and say that we are responsible for the murder of Tiller, which was committed by a nutcase. His action was not a pro-life action, but the action of a deranged individual as so many murders are.


On the other hand

when we gather for a pro-life demonstration or rally or prayer vigil, it is the other side that has the foul language, it is the pro-choicers who shout at us and who spit on the signs. And always there is one who cycles past yelling the worst obscenity, assured of his quick getaway on bike, never being brave enough to speak to anyone face to face. Always the anonymous shouting of some foul-mouthed statement that has the logic of a two-year-old.

And of course, those of you who've been reading SP for a while know that is EXACTLY what happened to the children in my son's 5th grade class when they marched for life.
FIFTH GRADE. 10 YEAR OLDS.
My CHILD was treated to your tolerance of free speech. Aren't you just ever so proud?

Do a little reading:
Pro Abortion Violence Ignored

Why don't the mainstream news sources report on violence by prochoicers or violence against prolifers?

Rather than mention the death of Late-Term abortionist Tiller - they could detail the violent attack in New Jersey of pro-lifer George Krail who was run over by pro-choicers entering the South Jersey Women's Center run by abortionist: George Danioff. The media could report that when pro-lifer George Krail was laying in pain on the sidewalk after the attack, and no one inside this "Medical Abortion Office" rendered him any assistance according to Krail's Wife, Tina. It was pro-choicers who violently used their car to break George's right leg in four places , four of George's ribs and inflicted several other injuries to his ankle. Why doesn't the media repeat this violent pro-choice story?

And there you go - you either aren't getting ALL the facts - or you are ignoring them for convenience - or BOTH.

Yes, let me know when you baby killers are virginal white again, will you?

Firebomb Thrown at Elderly Woman at Pro-Life Prayer Event

Pro-choicer assaults 75 year old elderly pro-lifer at abortion clinic

This is a rough unedited video from security cameras. Pro-lifer, Esther Boozer, 75, was violently pushed by a pro-choice client of the FPA abortion center (the assault happens about 4 minutes into this video). Tim Palmquist was talking to the woman, and Esther noticed her lunge at Tim several times. Esther silently, prayerfully approached Tim with her hands behind her back, and the woman pushed Esther down. Esther fell into the street just as the client's ride was arriving. Esther's head was just behind the rear tire. When pro-lifers called the police the client fled the scene.

Abortion proponents injure pro-life vet and elderly man in two separate attacks

Abortionist arrested for brandishing gun at pro-lifers

Ah yes, the humanity and tolerance of those oh so smugly tolerant proborts against children and elderly.

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 20, 2013 08:51 PM
154. Ye gods, this has been entertaining! A moronic post about bed-bugs in Seattle's hotels degenerates -- if that was indeed ever possible -- into KDS ranting about ObamaHitler, and Rag(e)s going on her typical rant about how a zygote has more mental capacity than does she. (OK, we might have to give her argument some credit, there.)

Meanwhile, I will have to give Jim some credit. In the second comment of the entire thread, I mocked the concern-trolling the regulars here do towards Seattle. Undaunted, Jim then fearlessly concern-trolls me (@17), and Seattle's hoteliers (@20). Bravo, sir! (Although we note you still have to open your most recent Jay Inslee thread to comments.)

I leave it to KDS and Rag(e)s to complete the destruction of this thread, if indeed that remains possible. Good foggy night to all!

Posted by tensor at January 20, 2013 09:53 PM
155. Dr. Steve: one last moment of appreciation --

It's not like if the Fairmont-Olympic found a bed bug they'd call the mayor.

I did LOL at that. I'm sure some of our local concern-trolls actually believe that is how the world actually works. :-)

Posted by tensor at January 20, 2013 09:57 PM
156. If only our loud lefty's had the ability to be intellectually honest... instead of resorting to meaningless invective to change the subject, eh tensor?

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 20, 2013 10:12 PM
157. As usual, Rag(e)s leads with her chin, presenting an irresistible target:

... instead of resorting to meaningless invective to change the subject...

The subject of this post is bed-bugs in Seattle. Not comparisons between America's first biracial President and history's most notorious racist (KDS), and not admissions of how a single-celled creature is your moral and intellectual equivalent, Rag(e)s. Bed-bugs. Yes, bed-bugs, hard to believe though that is.

Nite nite...

Posted by tensor at January 20, 2013 10:34 PM
158. Can't help yourself can you? That's the glass jaw of loud lefty's.

Pendulums swing.

Don't let your bed bugs bite.

Posted by RagnarDanneskold at January 20, 2013 10:42 PM
159. It's been fun, Tensor. Your comments are a kick.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 10:48 PM
160. "Not comparisons between America's first biracial President and history's most notorious racist (KDS), and not admissions of how a single-celled creature is your moral and intellectual equivalent."

He who invokes racist is the real racist, tensor -jackass loser. Your's and stevie's post are insults to the intelligence of this blog. Good riddance, dimwits !!

Posted by KDS at January 20, 2013 10:54 PM
161. I know Rags and KDS have no respect for the topic, but I do. So does Tensor.

So back to the topic, Mitt Romney and his bed bug infested Marriott hotels. If you're staying at one of Mitt's places, God forbid, refer to the Mayo Clinic site I provided a link to @14. It has tips for staying at places like that. For instance, don't put your luggage on the bed until you've inspected it. Don't put your stuff in the room's dresser. Bring a Bed-Bug-Detecto-Meter if you've got one. And I'm sure you wingnuts have stashed some DDT somewhere. If not, why not? After all, you can't be too careful if you're going to be staying at one of Mitt Romney's bed bug infested hotels.

And a last word of advice. You wingnuts should think about being nicer to attorneys. If the bed bugs at the Marriott devour one of your kids, you just might need a good lawyer.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 11:05 PM
162. "Good riddance, dimwits !!"

Are you leaving? That was the intent, you know, to drive you away in an effort to improve this blog. Damn, I didn't know that it'd be so easy.

Anyways, good riddance to you too, KDS! Good luck with the bed bugs.

Posted by Doctor Steve at January 20, 2013 11:09 PM
163. Wow. Resident leftists lecturing about staying on blog post topic. Must be something in the water.

Posted by SouthernRoots at January 21, 2013 06:15 AM
164. I think everyone has had a chance to have their say.

And if you haven't, I'll repeat an offer I've made before: If you would like an open post, email me and ask me for one. I won't make any promises, since I do have other things to do, but I might provide one this Friday.

Posted by Jim Miller at January 21, 2013 08:47 AM